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Dr. Kyle Peck
Professor of Education
Instructional Systems Department
The
Pennsylvania State University
University Park, Pennsylvania 16802
Phone: (814) 863-4316
Email: kpeck@psu.edu
Could you briefly describe your educational
background and your professional preparation? My educational
background is probably pretty typical of people in our profession:
My "professional preparation" may have been better than
typical, in that I had a real mentor who invested lots of energy in my
professional development. Mike Hannafin was my advisor at the University
of Colorado, and he gave me more than I believe most graduate students
get from their advisors. He was a great model, and allowed me to
be coauthor with him on a couple of articles and a book. Mike, more
than anyone else, taught me to write. I'd submit drafts, and they'd
come back all marked up. I'd look at his corrections and suggestions,
at first with a bit of anger, but then, one by one, I'd look at the changes
and see how they made the work better. Gradually, over time, I believe
I "got it," and became an acceptable writer. Mike also got me started
with professional associations, encouraging me to contribute as well as
attend. I've been called "one of the many Mike Hannafin clones."
I find that quip flattering, and a testimony to Mike. (Sometimes
I look at a conference program count how many presentations come from
his students -- it's really impressive!)
I too was fortunate in having a real mentor, but
I know other students who didn't have that experience. I had an
interesting discussion recently with some Ph.D. students on the expectations
and responsibilities of faculty and students. How do you go about
mentoring your own students? Can every student expect to have a
mentor?
Mentoring is becoming increasingly tough, as the number of doctoral
students increases and the ratio of students to faculty increases
with it. For centuries, professors (in most fields) had one or two
"proteges" (and/or protegees -- the female version -- (I'm unaware of
a unisex term such as "proteg-persons" (-: )). The faculty
member and the protege worked closely as colleagues for years, usually
on research the professor had underway that attracted the student in the
first place. Now, things are quite different. Faculty members
have many students as "advisees," and they are also expected to spend
more time attracting external funding, and on other tasks that detract
from the mentoring process, like serving on the "Committee on Committees
and rules" (I'm not making that up!). In other words, I guess we've
slipped from "mentoring" to "advising" as the general rule. It's
a shame, in some respects, but then again, perhaps it's a natural byproduct
of making graduate level education available to more students, which is
a good thing.
How did you become interested in the role of technology
in education?
As a teacher, I gravitated naturally to the use of media.
I saw the level of interest good media generated in students, and the
knowledge students took away from them. Then, Leah Schuster, (Media
Specialist in the middle school I taught in at the time) told me what
she had heard about the coming "videodiscs," and how they would be controlled
by microcomputers, making branching, adaptive video-based instruction
possible. Wow! I was hooked. That's what I wanted to
do. I wanted to attach videodisc players to my TRS-80 to create
powerful video-based learning experiences, that would adapt to what students
know and need. On your
personal home
page you list your personal goal as:
"Before I die people will look back at what we
do today in the name of education and will say, "I can't believe we
used to do it that way!" What is
your vision of what people will do then in the name of education?
An editorial in Wired magazine referred to this time we live
in as "Renaissance, version 2.0." I think we're going to break
the "one-size-fits-all" mentality, and encourage different educational
programs for different students. Some will be multidisciplinary,
problem-based, activity-oriented, and based on Gardner's Multiple Intelligence
Theory." Dozens, if not hundreds of others will include science
magnets, "back to basics" approaches, and technologically rich alternatives.
I know many in the field have an impression that
public education has not been receptive to Instructional Technology,
beyond a media/computer level. This "technology as hardware" mentality
doesn't seem to allow the inclusion of any of the theoretical approaches
that abound in IT research. It's more of a mindset of "Just put
the computers in and tell me how to run them. Don't tell me how to teach."
Do you agree with this assessment? Who do you see driving this Renaissance?
Good question! Educating a human being is a very complex
proposition! There's certainly not one right way to do it. For
this reason, I rather like the "don't tell me how to teach" reaction.
On the other hand, the computer is a tool that Seymour Papert describes
aptly as "infinitely plastic" -- it looks pretty much the same, but
it can be used for so many, drastically different purposes that I don't
think anyone should feel like they can't use some advice or benefit
from some conversation about the possibilities it presents. I do have
a problem with the "Don't tell me how to teach" mindset, however, but
it's the presumption that the "teacher" is supposed to "teach."
I believe that new roles for teacher, student and technology will be
concurrently redefined -- that is, we'll start by figuring out what
the students should be doing, and at the same time we'll redefine what
teachers and technologies have to do to support students in this new
role. Those redefinitions of the roles of educators (I'd prefer
to call them "educators" to reflect this new role) and technologies
will allow us to revisit the student role, as well. You ask who might
be driving the Renaissance... I think that, almost by definition,
nobody is driving it, or perhaps more accurately lots of people are
driving it, each, perhaps, in a different direction. It's a blossoming
of new ideas -- like the amazing variety of plant life that grows after
a fire removes a forest that had dominated the landscape.
What are a couple of interesting and useful areas
that someone just beginning in IT research might want to explore?
Gee! There are sooooooo many... I'd like to think that
we'll place less emphasis on media comparison studies, and investigations
of single variables in contrived settings, and will begin to undertake
more holistic, more authentic investigations. I realize that we
are encouraged to isolate variables and investigate their effects while
controlling other factors, but the real world of classrooms doesn't
behave as well as the world of physical science, and such separations
are often artificial. The questions of most interest to me are
complex, like "What are the effects on academic performance, confidence,
creativity, problem solving, and teamwork of a new model of education
that includes new roles for teacher, student, and technology, a multidisciplinary,
theme-based curriculum, cross-age grouping, well-specified academic
standards, and authentic assessments." (Which brings me add that
today's researcher should be versed in both quantitative and qualitative
research methods and should use them in a complementary manner.)
Could you recommend two or three books or articles
that are "must reads" for graduate students or others beginning a career
in IT research?
My current interests surround innovation in schools,
so these may not be what you expected from me, but I'd recommend...
- George Leonard's article, "The Great School Reform
Hoax" (which appeared in Forbes magazine and is also currently
bundled with a much older book Education and Ecstasy.)
- Ted Sizer's Horace's Compromise and Horace's
School -- a very readable set of books based on decades of research
in American High Schools.
- I'd also recommend Michael Fullan's work on Educational
Change (any of a number of books and articles...)
What are two or three of your publications that you
are most proud of?
- Learn Professional Development Website (the work of a very
large team I managed, designed to meet the technology-related needs of
teachers).
- Peck, K. L. & Carr, A. A. (1997) Restoring
Public Confidence in Schools through Systems Thinking. International
Journal of Educational Reform, 6(3), 316-323.
- Peck, K. L (1996) Questioning "The Way
We Are Headed." In Kincheloe, Steinberg, & Gresson (Eds.)
Measured Lies: The Bell Curve Examined. St. Martin's Press.
Describe your writing process.
I have two "writing processes," one for
when I'm under the gun, one for when I have plenty of time. When
I have plenty of time, I develop an outline, I review the literature looking
for topics identified in the outline (starting with electronic resources),
insert my notes into the outline, then work over the outline to create
a first draft. Then I put it away for a week. (After a week
I can read it as if it were "new," or written by someone else.)
I print it and then edit it (I find more things to change when I read
it on paper). I then take the second draft and give it to colleagues
(usually students, faculty, and public school educators). I incorporate
their feedback, and put it aside for a week. Then I "tweak" it,
and call it done. When I'm under pressure, I begin by creating a detailed
outline. For the sections of the outline for which there is little
detail, I do some quick research, filling out the outline. Then,
I use the outline as notes, and speak into a tape recorder, as if making
a conference presentation. Then, I transcribe the tape, not allowing
myself to change anything at this time (Don't get hung up in finding the
right word or phrase, just get the words on paper. Then I print
it and do a thorough edit pass, and give it to one colleague to read (overnight,
please?). I incorporate the reviewer's comments, and then make one
final pass myself, and send it on. (As may be evident by this point, I
didn't follow any of these processes in responding to these questions.
I have developed a "pact" with people with whom I use email frequently
-- email is an informal communication. It comes with the bumps and
warts of a hand-written note - no editing. Otherwise, it would take
too long, and we wouldn't get as much done.) You were recently elected
president of
AECT
(okay, you were actually elected "president-elect-designee" but I
think that means you'll eventually be the president). First of all,
Congratulations! Second, why did you want to be the president of AECT?
What do you hope to accomplish in that office?
Yes, it's true. I'll become President
Elect of AECT
in February of 1998, and will become President in 1999 and will serve
in that capacity as 2000 arrives. One of the reasons I accepted the nomination
is that I think there will be a lot of attention on technology during
that year. Clinton and Gore will still be in the White House, and
there should be good opportunities for the professionals in our field
to make important progress. However, I'd like to add that it is
very possible that by the time 2000 arrives much of the attention paid
to technology may not be positive. I think we're in for a backlash
about then, during which people will be asking us to justify the expense
of the increased presence of technologies in schools, and we'd better
be prepared to address it. Another reason I accepted the nomination is
that I think I'm a pretty effective speaker -- largely because I use technology
well when I speak. As President, I'll be asked to present (or defend)
often, and I know I'll be able to do that pretty well, because the technologies
I use help me get the message across. I also believe that we should
feel an obligation to serve our profession. I have not always been
able to respond to requests for my involvement, because I tend to be very
involved in may important projects. (Older readers will remember the "plate
spinners" on the Ed Sullivan Show who ran back and forth from one plate
spinning on top of a long pole to another -- adding plates to see how
many they could keep in the air at once. That's what life in our
field feels like sometimes, and it's just not possible to add another
responsibility without several crashing down.) The request to run
for President came with plenty of warning, so I am able to complete projects
gracefully and "make room" for service to AECT.
What advice would you give someone just starting
out in IT?
Develop your knowledge of learning
and technology, and develop your abilities to write and to use images
and media well, and then... Hang on tight, and never stop growing.
It's going to be a wild (and exciting) ride for those of us who are ready
for it!
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